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Chiangmai, pool or just chinese billiards?

Recent wanderings...

How does that old saying go? “A change is as good as a holiday.” Or is it “a holiday is as good as a change”? Whatever … recently I was out of Thailand for some time and when I returned I thought that, rather than immediately settle back into my old routine, I’d try to look at the pool bars and halls around Sukhumvit through fresh eyes, so to speak. An attempt, if you like, to view it more as a visitor, rather than a long-time resident.

Before I get onto that, a couple of observations from my travels outside the kingdom. First, no matter how hard I tried, I couldn’t find anywhere nearly as hospitable, easy and cheap to play pool as in Bangkok. In most cities good pool tables are hard to find, expensive (3 or 4 bucks a game!), service as we know it is non-existent, and it’s basically a bloke’s game. Your chances of whiling away the afternoon around a pool table in the company of great looking women are virtually zero in Farangstan. Stick to Asia: Bangkok, Saigon, Manila, etc. are all better places for the recreational pool player.

Second, the one high spot in my travels was that I actually found a pool table in Singapore’s Changi Airport! Despite newer and flasher airports around the world, Changi has long been my favourite (my airline of choice is SQ so I often transit through there). It’s supremely efficient, there’s a huge range of interesting stores to look at, you can actually find decent food there, and bugger me, now I’ve found a half decent pool table there! It’s in a little pub area in Terminal 1, and I spent a half hour or so playing with fellow travellers as I waited to board my flight. Surely this cements Changi’s position as the world’s number one airport?

Back to Bangkok…

Upon my return I hit the dusty sois of Sukhumvit again, albeit with the slightly altered perspective of someone who hadn’t been here for a while. Here’s what I found …

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Soi Nana:

While I occasionally drop into the occasional bar in Soi Nana, I’m a pretty rare visitor these days and I’m usually down there for lunch rather than pool. So I spent an entire afternoon checking out the small pool bars in the street, starting at the Tobacco Monopoly end of the soi. And what I found is … they’re all basically the same. Usually one or two pretty ordinary tables, the house cues are universally dreadful, and while there’s always the chance of running into someone interesting the reality is that lovely pool-playing partners are few and far between at the far end of the soi.

As you might expect things gradually get better the closer you get to Sukhumvit and Nana Plaza. Call me picky, but one of the main detractions of the smaller semi-outdoor bars is the lack of air conditioning. (Surely someone got a sainthood for inventing air conditioning; if they didn’t they damn well should have!) So, as hard as I tried to enjoy myself, it was pretty difficult in the prevailing hot and sticky surroundings. It was really only when I reached the first Hilary Bar that things started looking up.

Yeah, I know, we’ve mentioned the Bars Hillary before, but remember that this time I’m trying to see them through new eyes. I haven’t really been in either of the two in Soi Nana for some time, over a couple of days I moved between the two of them to decide which of them suited me best. And the answer is … the one up past the Raja Hotel car park. It’s a bit more like a pub, the tables are decent, and the staff are helpful and a couple are decent pool players if you can’t find anyone else. It’s also more roomy and comfortable, more laid back. After a couple of visits I wondered why I hadn’t spent more time there in the past.

This is not to imply that the other Hillary Bar isn’t worth visiting. There’s a lot more action there in terms of potential pool opponents of the long, leggy female variety. It becomes a busy little place as the afternoon wears on, to the point that it can be difficult to get on to a table at times. I find the girls there a little pushy, leaning towards the “you buy me cola” lot down in the bars in Nana Plaza. But there’s no question that you can indeed have a good time in either of the Hillary bars in this soi, but they are each quite different in character.

Whilst on the subject of bars of the Hillary variety, I found yet another one in Soi 11 (are they trying to take over the world to set up a Hillary Empire?). Left hand side of Soi 11 as you head down from Sukhumvit Road, it’s in a row of shophouses so it’s more compact than either of the bars in Soi Nana. Once again, a completely different ambiance, but still quite OK. It’s a little out of the way though, being quite a way down the soi – as I tend to drop into that trendiest-of-trendy bars Q Bar from time to time to see old buddies, I could be tempted to spend some time in this “Hilary 3” bar to hit a few balls around before wandering further down the road.

Back to Soi Nana: of course, if you’re in this soi and you really like your pool it’s impossible to ignore that the main Ball In Hand venue is also in this soi. I’ve raved on elsewhere in this site on my ultimate preference for playing in the sophisticated surrounds of Ball In Hand so I won’t elaborate any more here. But of course it really isn’t a pick-up joint, so if you like a good game of pool find a partner somewhere else in the soi and slide in there later on.

Sanuk Bar:

This one’s a pleasant little surprise. It’s in what I call “E-sarn Alley”, the little walkway connecting Sois 5 and 7. I must have passed this place hundreds of times travelling between New Wave on Soi 7 and Gullivers on Soi 5.

Now, if you know the little alley of which I speak, with its tiny one-chair hairdressing “salons”, equally minute internet cafes, and stalls selling delicious authentic E-sarn fishguts ‘n’ gravel meals, it’s hard to believe that you can actually fit a pub with three decent pool tables and a pretty well stocked bar in there. Truly, it’s a real life J.K. Rowlings “platform nine and three-quarters” – I’m buggered if I know where the space comes from.

So having ignored it for years, I finally ducked in and found a very nice little hiding place. As I said, three tables, reasonable cues and good service, partly because I’ve never been in there when there’s been more than about half a dozen punters. The staff are very friendly and one or two are capable of playing a decent game of pool. All in all, a good place to lose an hour or two mid-afternoon, and a useful place to meet friends because of its handy location to transport.

Gullivers/New Wave:

Just quickly, after being away for a while I’ve found these two old staples less inviting than before. For some reason the slickness of Gullivers I find increasingly annoying; there are all kinds of unnecessary “rules” that annoy me, such as not being able to play on the back tables until about 5 pm. Paying for each drink as you order it pisses me off too, it’s a hangover from Gullivers beginnings with backpackers, but every other bar in town runs a tab and you pay when you leave. The staff also seem to be specially trained to not recognise you (maybe it’s just me?), whereas in virtually all the other bars I go into on a regular basis greet me and my wallet with open arms. New Wave just seems to get grottier – the tables, cues, etc really are pretty ordinary, you’d think that a place that does really turn over some customers during peak hour could sink a bit of money back into their equipment.

Bottom line is that while I’ll poke my head into both to see if any old friends are hanging around, I’m disinclined to spend any real time in either of them. It seems a lot of old regulars are thinking likewise. Sanuk bar is the more pleasant choice to play a little low-key pool.

Woodstock:

The original Woodstock was, I believe, the very first bar in what is now Nana Plaza (it got off to a shaky start with a couple of tourist gem shops and a few restaurants, I used to park my car in the centre which is now filled with beer bars). It was originally at the top of the sometimes-it-works-sometimes-it-doesn’t escalator near the spirit houses at the entrance to the plaza. It was started by an Aussie bloke named Kevin who developed the format of Woodstock-era music, burgers, etc. It soon expanded and moved into the far corner on the same floor (near G-Spot) where it survived for many years with its mix of good music, good food, and (was it three or four?) pool tables.

So it was with some anticipation that I headed to the relocated Woodstock, in Soi Akapart (Thonglor Soi 13, which runs from Dom Kruang restaurant on the Thonglor corner down to Samitvej Hospital at the other end). I have to say I was quite disappointed. For a start it looks a lot grander on their website, but it’s basically a pretty ordinary shophouse in an out-of-the-way location. It doesn’t really stand out, so it would be pretty easy to go past if you were in a vehicle.

It’s not all negative. It does have a better-than-average pool table, and reasonable house cues. But there’s only one table, and when I (and my carefully selected pool-playing partner) started making moves towards the table the small group of incumbents seemed to regard us as intruders. After we’d won our way onto the table they didn’t get any friendlier, and sulked as we fought off all challengers.

The food is still good, the menu being recognisable to anyone who knew the old Woodstock bar. And the bar itself, including the selection of spirits, was better than most. But the whole place was lacking in ambiance, a consequence I’d suggest of its location. Yes, it is handy to trendy Soi Thonglor with it’s ever-changing selection of restaurants and drinking holes, but it’s still a bit of a hike and if you’re down that way, you’ll probably find better entertainment on the main soi without having to trudge down the side sois. As indeed we did …

Witches Tavern:

This big, plush bar, restaurant and entertainment joint is right on Thonglor, pretty much opposite Soi 13 (the Woodstock soi).

The Witches Tavern has been around for ages (the owner also has Witches Oyster Bar down on Soi Ruamrudee which is something entirely different). As I’ve lived in the Thonglor area ever since I first arrived in BKK, over the last few years I’ve dropped into Witches Tavern from time to time. I’d describe it as the Thai eccentric version of what they think a farang bar/pub should be, and it’s all the better for it. The architecture and fittings are weird and over the top, but that doesn’t stop it being a good place. It’s all rather grand in that Thai-Doric-columns-badly-cast-in-concrete manner, but weird décor aside it’s just plain good fun.

Now, it always used to be a pretty Thai kind of place, with the occasional farang resident and girlfriend floating through briefly. I’ve occasionally dropped in there in the rainy season when inclement weather has halted progress on my motorcycle, so I’ve dropped in there to have a drink and listen to the music until the rain stopped. On the night I went to Woodstock I arranged to meet my Thai friend there because she lives nearby and wasn’t sure she’d find Woodstock by herself. I noticed that it seems to have developed more of a mixed audience, although it still caters more for the locals. But the ambiance is great, you can sit at the bar or find a table, there’s live music (both in Thai and English), the staff are quite good fun and on the ball, and there are even a few pool tables (although not particularly good ones) up in the dress circle on the second floor. And, of course, if you’re Thai you can’t drink without eating so there’s an extensive menu too.

After we’d wandered off for our unrewarding visit to Woodstock, we headed straight back to Witches Tavern where, as it turned out, we should have stayed all night. When we got back the place was rockin’ (no sign in this bar of the quaint notices one sees in Australian pubs advising that they don’t serve drunks – so why have a bar?). Your Thai friends will love this one, and you can even play pool there! I’ll be spending more time there.

Chiangmai, pool or just chinese billiards?

Yes, I know this site is primarily about the Sukhumvit area, but these days more and more of my friends are moving out of town, and I’m beginning to think that I might eventually choose to live outside Bangkok too. So I’ve been spending more time visiting friends up around Chiangmai, and obviously I need a place to play pool while I’m there.

Anybody who has ever been there will know that there’s no shortage of pool tables in the bars there. They are universally terrible, with torn tables and lousy cues, but if you wander around you will find some that are better than others. The area around the night market, near the boxing ring, has lots of bars with pool tables. But you’ll really need to check out the tables if you really want to play a half-decent game – some of the tables are just atrocious, with torn surfaces and battered cushions. Persevere and you can find a table or two that are slightly better, and it’s always an interesting place to people-watch, so it’s still worth a look. Once again, the lack of air-conditioning can make them pretty hot and sticky, particularly during the rainy season.

chiangmai taxi There’s another little bar area on Loi Khro road, which runs from the Night Bazaar (bizarre?) area to the eastern side of the moat. This is quite a fun place later in the evening, very much like the bars in the smaller sois off Sukhumvit. There’s quite a cluster of bars at the moat end of the street, nearly all of them with pool tables of the same questionable quality. Once again, look around and you’ll find a place that’s worth hanging around in for a drink or two.

Now, a little pool-playing surprise! On my most recent trip to Chiangmai I was studying the inside of the airport while I was waiting at the carousel for my baggage to turn up, and I happened to notice an ad for a 10-pin bowling alley that also claimed to have pool tables. So my buddy and I went off in search of it a couple of days later, and it turned out to be OK – not great but OK.

I don’t really know how to describe this place, except that it’s at the north-west corner of the road that runs around the perimeter of the inside of the moat. The only real landmark (apart from the corner of the moat) is the Ram Hospital on the other side of the moat, which is a facility that the farang residents of the area use (you can go in there to have your wrist bandaged up when you sprain it playing pool).

The place itself is uniquely Thai. It’s a huge edifice of rotting concrete, and from the outside looks like an above-ground version of the bunker that Hitler spent his last days in. But when you get to the top of the sweeping staircase that leads up from the street, lo and behold there’s a room on the right with perhaps a dozen full-size snooker/billiard tables in it. This is OK, the tables are worn and maybe one or two are being used by the local whisky-fueled snooker hotshots. If you really want to play snooker or billiards you can certainly give these tables a shot.

More interestingly, if you go straight ahead at the top of the stairs into the bowling alley, you’ll find four pool tables on one side of this vast room – the bowling lanes are on the other side. The tables are very average, but playable. The have one of the strangest systems of paying that I’ve ever seen – you put coins into a slot to turn the table lights on! The best thing is the eye candy – because it is the local bowling alley all sorts of interesting feminine visions flash by, and some of the staff (who are primarily there to serve the bowling crowd) are pretty easy on the eye too. When we first started to go there we were very much outsiders, but we played a couple of hours there every second or third day for a couple of weeks, by which time the entire place had become much more familiar and friendly. Needless to say, there’s food and drink there, and you can park right at the entrance to the building. No idea of what it’s like at night, but as a way of killing some time mid-afternoon it turned out to be just fine.

Back to Bangkok (again) …

So after some time travelling outside Thailand and Bangkok, it’s time to settle in again (at least until the next trip). The one thing a spell away has taught me is that there’s really nowhere like the Sukhumvit area for the pool fanatic! The range of establishments, the variety of playing partners, and the sheer value-for-money make this perhaps the best place in the world to rack ‘em up. Looks like I’m here for a while longer then!

Chuck Wao

 

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